Last night, the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca announced a pol­i­cy change that will allow trans­gen­der youth to par­tic­i­pate in sin­gle-gen­der Scout pro­grams. You can read about the pol­i­cy change here. This morn­ing, BSA Nation­al Com­mis­sion­er Charles Dahlquist spoke about the pol­i­cy change in a inter­view with Bri­an and Aman­da on KSL news. Here are excerpts from that inter­view:

Aman­da: How did the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca come to the deci­sion?

Charles: Well, you know, this has been an issue that’s been brew­ing for some time and all school dis­tricts have had a real chal­lenge. It’s been dif­fi­cult because there’s been no way of deal­ing with this. The Boy Scouts have tra­di­tion­al­ly had a num­ber of pro­grams that are sin­gle gen­der because research has shown for a long time that at cer­tain ages, sin­gle-gen­der edu­ca­tion in this type of pro­gram is ben­e­fi­cial. By our char­ter, those sin­gle-gen­der pro­grams are for boys. There are oth­er pro­grams for girls. We have a num­ber of pro­grams for young women both in STEM areas and in old­er youth areas.

[Describ­ing the cur­rent legal sit­u­a­tion with gen­der iden­ti­fi­ca­tion] When leg­is­la­tures began to get involved in it, it was very appar­ent that no longer [were] the birth cer­tifi­cate or our pre­vi­ous guide­lines help­ful. So we have gone to the dec­la­ra­tion of the parents—what the par­ents indi­cate on the appli­ca­tion. Which is real­ly no change at all, because that’s what we’ve been doing for years.

Bri­an: So Charles, it used to require a birth cer­tifi­cate, right? And now I guess it’s just how the par­ents fill out the appli­ca­tion; is that right?

Charles: Actu­al­ly, in 2016 the guide­line for the birth cer­tifi­cate was there because the ques­tion was, how do we deter­mine now with all of this? We were just try­ing to respond in the same way the schools across the coun­try have respond­ed to pro­tect kids on both sides, both the trans­gen­der kids and the oth­er kids. And the issue was the birth cer­tifi­cate, although the birth cer­tifi­cate has real­ly nev­er been uti­lized. Par­ents have nev­er been required to say, okay, here’s your birth cer­tifi­cate. It’s basi­cal­ly been what has been put on the appli­ca­tion any­way. So that birth cer­tifi­cate guide­line will be removed and we’ll just go with what has been the practice—putting what­ev­er the par­ents have put on the appli­ca­tion.

Aman­da: Are you con­cerned at all, Charles, with the response from some of the troops that are spon­sored by reli­gious orga­ni­za­tions, includ­ing the LDS Church?

Charles: No. We have been in con­tact pri­or to this with our major char­tered part­ners. And that’s one of the things that is char­ac­ter­is­tic of the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca. That is, we have char­tered part­ners, includ­ing the LDS Church, the Methodist Church, the Luther­an Church, police orga­ni­za­tions, and all kinds of com­mu­ni­ty orga­ni­za­tions. We’ve been in con­tact with them and we’ve indi­cat­ed that this is up to them. This is up to the local unit to make the deter­mi­na­tion and to the char­tered part­ners and they will make the deter­mi­na­tions.

One of the chal­lenges that we have that we’re work­ing on is logis­tics. As you can imag­ine, even though this is just a very small num­ber of kids across the coun­try, we want to make sure that they are wel­come but also that they are safe. So in Scout camps and in oth­er areas we are work­ing to make sure that those kids are safe, just like we have worked for decades to make sure Scouts are safe.

You can lis­ten to the full audio of the inter­view here. The rel­e­vant por­tion goes from 46:30 to 50:31.

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Maria Milligan
Has spent several years as a merit badge counselor, several summers as a waterfront director, and her whole life wishing she could do the Pinewood Derby with her 6 brothers. She joined the Utah National Parks Council as a Grant Writer to get her chance.

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  1. Dear col­leagues and friends,

    This week has pro­vid­ed us all with many pos­i­tive expe­ri­ences, and many sig­nif­i­cant chal­lenges. I appre­ci­ate the com­mit­ment of each of you to the high­est ideals of our Scout Oath and Law, and the ded­i­ca­tion to pro­vid­ing the life chang­ing pro­gram of Scout­ing to our Nation’s youth.

    I am not look­ing to spark a debate, or add to the com­men­tary, but would ask that you reflect on some­thing that I’ve thought about a lot over the past few weeks.

    As we enter the week­end, pic­ture your house of wor­ship. Whether it is your home, a church, syn­a­gogue or oth­er sacred place, pic­ture it in your mind. Now pic­ture a sweet, inno­cent child, one who is strug­gling with gen­der iden­ti­ty. They face many chal­lenges in life, and regard­less of your per­son­al opin­ion, ask your­self one question….Do you bar the door of your sacred place and send them away? Or, do you wel­come them in?

    I just ask that you reflect on this.

    Be well, be strong, and togeth­er we will see Scout­ing build the future lead­ers our Nation will need in the decades to come.

    1. Steve says:

      I must admit to hav­ing great dif­fi­cul­ty rec­on­cil­ing this deci­sion with the Scout Oath and Law. A girl pre­tend­ing to be a boy is a lie. How does this align with “A scout is trust­wor­thy”? When I recite the Oath and Law, I mean what I say, I live what I say. Gen­der is not a choice, nor is it a dis­abil­i­ty, it is a genet­ic fact. No more, no less.

      If I were to fol­low this log­ic, be trust­wor­thy and tell us you wish to remove the “B” in BSA and move on. I can live with such a pro­pos­al.

      Don’t force us to accept a lie. As a vol­un­teer, my answer is “no”. I will not sup­port this as it stands. There will be no Friends of Scout­ing sup­port as long as BSA per­pet­u­ates a lie or lies to its mem­bers.

      A scout is trust­wor­thy…

    2. Kim says:

      To the pres­i­dent of the Boy’s Scouts of Amer­i­ca- Thanks you so much for your inclu­siv­i­ty. I believe the scouts have a lot to offer and allow­ing trans­gen­der youth to par­tic­i­pate is great. Thanks again

    3. Don Jensen says:

      Mike,

      Do you hon­est­ly believe that these deci­sions that have been made in the last 5 years are what our youth in Scout­ing today real­ly will ben­e­fit from? Sor­ry, your wrong! Some things are worth going to court over which the BSA has done in the past and won every time. What do you con­sid­er worth fight­ing for? The lib­er­al morals of today being for­ward­ed by the polit­i­cal­ly cor­rect left defy what the Boy Scout Char­ter stands for. Sor­ry, I’m just one vol­un­teer of almost 30 years as an adult and 6 as a scout that finds the BSA lack­ing in the Oath and the Law which they claim to stand for.

      Don Jensen
      donjensenbsa@gmail.com

      1. WOW… these com­ments are shame­ful. I’d like to make a cou­ple of points here as I see so much mis­in­for­ma­tion being put forth.

        1. Trans­gen­der youth are NOT con­fused about their gen­der. If you think they are, per­haps you might want to do some research b/c there’s noth­ing more dam­ag­ing than igno­rance in action.

        2. Trans­gen­der boys, are boys and they will grow up to be men just like any oth­er boy with med­ical com­pli­ca­tions.

        3. I want­ed to include this b/c so many of you seem to have for­got­ten parts of it “Scout­ing is a val­ues-based pro­gram with its own code of con­duct. The Scout Oath and Law help instill the val­ues of good con­duct, respect for oth­ers, and hon­esty. Scouts learn skills that will last a life­time, includ­ing basic out­door skills, first aid, cit­i­zen­ship skills, lead­er­ship skills, and how to get along with oth­ers. For almost a cen­tu­ry, Scout­ing has instilled in young men the val­ues and knowl­edge that they will need to become lead­ers in their com­mu­ni­ties and coun­try.” The “how to get along with oth­ers” seems to be lack­ing. Is this not some­thing you actu­al­ly val­ue?

        4. I’m not sure what the phrase “Polit­i­cal Cor­rect­ness” means to you but, when I was grow­ing up we called it “Com­mon Decen­cy” and, it showed folks that we val­ued good con­duct and respect for oth­ers.

        1. Anthony says:

          For­got this oth­er key point.….….….… What does the pre­fix “Trans” mean to you as used in your sen­tence. You had to be a boy before you could be a trans­gen­der boy. Boys and girls will grow up to be men or women and some will be good lead­ers some will not and some will be excel­lent lead­ers men and women alike.

          1. Anthony says:

            I made a mis­take in my sec­ond sen­tence above. I meant to say girl instead of boy

        2. Anthony says:

          Elaine,
          Not sure if you are igno­rant, young enough to real­ly not know what your talk­ing about, con­fused or just plain wrong. Humans with very very few excep­tions have either xx or xy chro­mo­somes that define gen­der. You can­not change it or deny it. It has noth­ing to do with how you feel what you wear or what injec­tions or surg­eries you per­form that fact is decid­ed in the womb of a female human who gives birth. There are med­ical anom­alies.

          You are fail­ing to leave out key por­tions of the Scout oath. .…..duty to GOD.… and that last phrase, .….…moral­ly straight.

    4. David Evans says:

      I appre­ci­ate the com­ments on both sides. Those that indi­cate the “duty to God” part of the oath is now in ques­tion are only par­tial­ly right. I guess that depends on who your “god” is. If it is the media, polit­i­cal cor­rect­ness, or any oth­er agen­da, then the Nation­al Scout­ing Orga­ni­za­tion is def­i­nite­ly doing their duty to their God. 

      I just won­der when we will be asked to remove the “Duty to God” and the “Moral­ly Straight” out of our oath. With active­ly gay lead­ers and gay and trans­gen­der youth encour­aged, I wor­ry. I remem­ber grow­ing up in a troop in Vir­ginia, a very messy sit­u­a­tion where an pre­vi­ous­ly “in the clos­et” gay leader molest­ed some of the boys in his unit. Those boys have had a life­time of trau­ma from the vic­tim­iza­tion and Scout­ing took a big hit from the par­ents in the area remov­ing their kids from the pro­gram.
      I have been a scout leader, cub mas­ter, Scout Mas­ter, Var­si­ty Team coach, Dis­trict Round Table Com­mis­sion­er, etc. for decades. It is just not the same any­more. What we allow, we encour­age then embrace. I am con­sid­er­ing end­ing a life­long rela­tion­ship with a won­der­ful, life chang­ing orga­ni­za­tion. It will change lives in the future…just how is the ques­tion. It doesn’t look good.

      1. Sarah says:

        I agree. The Girls Scouts had the same strug­gle in the 90’s and Amer­i­can Her­itage Girls sprung up from the loss of God from the GSA. AHG was allined with BSA in 2010, but dis­solved that alliance in 2013 when BSA desided to bend to , not what the vision in the start of BSA was, but what a very small minor­i­ty of soci­ety is forc­ing on the rest of the world. Amer­i­can Her­itage Girls has helped start Trail Life USA. These are both faith based orga­ni­za­tions that have been formed because of those God and faith are being forced out of BSA and have already been forced out of GSA. I’m in courag­ing all of those who are not hap­py with the direc­tion of BSA and GSA to search out these faith based orga­ni­za­tions and join them. That is what I have done with my grand-daugh­ter and am plan­ning with my grand-sons and sons. I’m sad this is the direc­tion BSA has cho­sen to take. We are sup­pose to raise up strong men for the future, but am ask­ing them to bend to what­ev­er a minor­i­ty says is right when the Bible doesn’t agree. I’m not say­ing to hate. Jesus says to love your neigh­bors, but He doesn’t say to become like them.

    5. Michael Acker says:

      As a leader of 22 years, men­tor­ing dozens of youth and scores of Eagle scouts; I can no longer take this con­stant bend­ing over to please a very small por­tion of the pop­u­la­tion at the expense of this “once” hon­or­able orga­ni­za­tion.
      I do not think Baden Pow­ell meant for this orga­ni­za­tion to be a social exper­i­ment; but to be the stan­dard bar­er of all that is good in this nation(s). I sup­pose you “lead­ers” at nation­al will be remov­ing “and moral­ly straight” out of the Scout Oath soon.
      Look­ing ahead years from now I will tell my grand­chil­dren about this once great orga­ni­za­tion called Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca. And they will reply: “Who are the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca?”

    6. Matt Mirmak says:

      Mr. Sur­baugh:

      I used part of your quote as some­thing to reflect upon as we cel­e­brate Scout Sun­day at many of our places of wor­ship.

      Scout­ing will sur­vive and we will be a stronger move­ment because of our deci­sion to be inclu­sive.

    7. Derek H says:

      I’m sor­ry but that’s a straw­man argu­ment. The “issue” of so-called trans­gen­der chil­dren is being used as a polit­i­cal lever by adults for adult agen­das. Scout­ing is no longer stand­ing up to pro­tect the boys under its care or grow­ing them into men.
      Nation­al lied about putting an end to the mat­ter by chang­ing mem­ber­ship poli­cies to allow in homo­sex­u­al youth and pushed an edict allow­ing in homo­sex­u­al adults with­out giv­ing coun­cils, units, or char­ter orga­ni­za­tions a chance to say any­thing. This lat­est push gives me no more rea­son to trust — or donate to/support — Nation­al.

      In answer to your last ques­tion, I wel­come the child in the door and teach him or her to be a boy or a girl as God and his/her genes dic­tate.

    8. Dan Schuring says:

      Mike,

      I real­ly appre­ci­ate this call to reflect and focus on the individual–to focus on empa­thy.

      Thank you,

      Dan Schur­ing

  2. Melany Gardner
    Melany Gardner ( User Karma: 2 ) says:

    Glad to hear that char­tered part­ners were com­mu­ni­cat­ed with before an announce­ment was made. That’s the ben­e­fit of such a part­ner­ship with the BSA. Char­tered part­ners get to deter­mine how this pol­i­cy is put into action, while giv­ing youth that iden­ti­fy dif­fer­ent­ly a chance to par­tic­i­pate.

    The Chief Scout Exec­u­tive, Mike Sur­baugh, has talked a lot about how the BSA might serve the whole fam­i­ly. I hope they con­tin­ue to look into ways that we can serve boys, girls, mom and dads. Here’s the arti­cle that talks a lit­tle about how impor­tant it is to serve the whole fam­i­ly. https://voiceofscouting.org/chief-scout-executive-asks-us-serve-entire-family

    1. Advancement Chair says:

      Melany, the ini­tial com­ments from BSA were that char­tered part­ners could decide. How­ev­er, try find­ing that in writ­ing any­where. Nowhere in the BSAs offi­cial state­ment and video will you find that infor­ma­tion. All they say is that the local district’s will work with fam­i­lies to find the right troop for their child. Very ambigu­ous. Until BSA puts it in writ­ing in an offi­cial doc­u­ment, I won’t believe it.

  3. DSS says:

    I am writ­ing you to let you know my dis­ap­proval for your new pol­i­cy of let­ting trans­gen­der kids into the Boy Scouts.
    The scouts have always been a stan­dard for morals among the young boys of Amer­i­ca and the world.
    This lit­tle girl in New Jer­sey, Joe (Jodi) who just turned 9 has been allowed into a Cub Scout troop.
    That means this moth­er had to have been work­ing on her daugh­ter since she was 6 or ear­li­er. How could you do this to a child?
    Let’s be clear, my com­plaint is not with this lit­tle girl but the way she is being used by her moth­er and the lib­er­al gay media to bring down the Boy Scouts with threats of being sued.
    What’s going to hap­pen in the troop now when they say a prayer at the end of the ser­vice and these par­ents get insult­ed because they have changed their child from a girl to a boy and sue because it made Jodi feel bad because it was wrong?
    How will this affect oth­er lit­tle boys that were raised in a Chris­t­ian home? Will they start want­i­ng to be lit­tle girls?
    Are they going to use the same bath­room? Sleep in the same tent?
    What if one lit­tle boy raised Chris­t­ian and hap­pens to say to Jodi what he is doing is wrong?
    Will those par­ents be kicked out? Will the troop be sued?
    How do you raise your child in the same scout troop and explain it to them what is going on? 

    Please do not for­get the Michael Swift’s Homo­sex­u­al Man­i­festo; pub­lished by Michael Swift in the Gay Com­mu­ni­ty News on Feb. 15–21, 1987:
    We shall sodom­ize your sons, emblems of your fee­ble mas­culin­i­ty, of your shal­low dreams and vul­gar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dor­mi­to­ries, in your gym­na­si­ums, in your lock­er rooms, in your sports are­nas, in your sem­i­nar­ies, in your youth groups, in your movie the­ater bath­rooms, in your army bunkhous­es, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your hous­es of Con­gress, wher­ev­er men are with men togeth­er. Your sons shall become our min­ions and do our bid­ding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.

    I hope you can see that this is just anoth­er nail in the cof­fin for the gay agen­da to destroy a pos­i­tive moral orga­ni­za­tion.
    Please recon­sid­er your deci­sion or allow this opin­ion to influ­ence future scout pol­i­cy.
    I am not the only one who feels this way, most would just quit. This is why the Trail Life USA has attract­ed some of our scouts and they have based the core beliefs on the orig­i­nal con­cept of the Boy Scouts.
    Hope­ful­ly this lit­tle girl is exposed to good morals and ends up chang­ing.
    I won­der how the orig­i­nal troop that would not accept her is doing?
    How many emails and hate mail have they received being called homo­phobes, big­ots, and racist?
    This opens up divi­sions between the scout troops with one accept­ing and one not. It seems to divide a great orga­ni­za­tion which was their orig­i­nal intent.
    Iso­lat­ing any­one who dis­agrees with it to become the tar­get of the gay agen­da.

  4. Concerned says:

    So some time has gone by, ad there has been no word from Nation­al on changes to Youth Pro­tec­tion. Youth Pro­tec­tion is no longer cur­rent or even valid under the new mem­ber­ship changes.
    If BSA tru­ly is inter­est­ed in pro­tect­ing our youth, wouldn’t this be the first thing to address before such a pol­i­cy change?
    The YPT Guide­lines state:

    Tent­ing
    No adult may share a tent with the oppo­site sex unless he or she is that adult’s spouse.
    No youth may share a tent with an adult or a per­son of the oppo­site sex oth­er than a fam­i­ly mem­ber or guardian. Assign­ing youth mem­bers more than two years apart in age to sleep in the same tent should be avoid­ed unless the youth are rel­a­tives.
    Show­er Facil­i­ties
    When­ev­er pos­si­ble, sep­a­rate show­er and latrine facil­i­ties should be pro­vid­ed for male/female adults and male/female youth. If sep­a­rate facil­i­ties are not avail­able, sep­a­rate show­er times should be sched­uled and post­ed.

    How do we apply this with respect to trans­gen­der youth?

    If we have decid­ed a per­son who is phys­i­cal­ly a female but decid­ed she is a male, per the lim­it­ed dis­cus­sion from Nation­al, she should use the show­ers and tents with males. Based on this, how do you then con­tin­ue to jus­ti­fy the sep­a­ra­tion the gen­der in the YPT pol­i­cy now. If male/female shar­ing is wrong, how can you jus­ti­fy the cur­rent pol­i­cy?

    The fact is there is no way. Based on the cur­rent Nation­al deci­sion and com­ments, there’s no jus­ti­fi­ca­tion to not have male and female shar­ing tents and show­ers.

    The fact that there’s no nation­al dis­cus­sion on this is quite dis­heart­en­ing as a leader — 35 years and Sil­ver Beaver.

  5. CatholicUnitCommitteeChair says:

    I fail to see the Catholic Church being men­tioned as a con­tact­ed char­ter part­ner. Because our char­ter expires Dec. 31, 2017, I antic­i­pate our units (Pack of 85 Scouts; Troop of 20 Scouts; Ven­tur­ing Crew of 11 Scouts) will not be rechar­tered by our Catholic Church dio­cese. BSA is ask­ing the Church to bend to the will of soci­ety too much too soon. Backed against a wall, the Church stands on the Word. And the Word is quite clear. 

    Either we seek a new Char­ter Orga­ni­za­tion open to BSA’s pro­gres­sive lean­ings, or we close after sum­mer camp sea­son. Those are the choic­es you have left our units with. 

    I regret BSA has moved in this direc­tion. Our units can­not fol­low. Don’t be sur­prised when the Jour­ney to Excel­lence rates drops like a stone. Espe­cial­ly in these red states.

  6. Kris says:

    Com­mis­sion­er Dahlquist, 

    I can’t tell you how hap­py I am that The Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca is now is safe place for ALL Boys. Your lead­er­ship in the inclu­sion of Trans­gen­der boys is an inspir­ing move toward inclu­siv­i­ty.

    For all the crit­i­cism you may be receiv­ing, please know that there are MANY of us who sup­port you and this impor­tant move to make the Boys Scouts a safe place for ALL Boys.

  7. Soon to Be Former Adult Scout Leader says:

    I am deeply sad­dened that once again, Boy Scout Lead­er­ship has tak­en the easy road instead of stand­ing up for the prin­ci­ples that made Boy Scouts a great orga­ni­za­tion. I have been a Cub Scout Com­mit­tee Chair and am cur­rent­ly a mer­it badge coun­selor and an Assis­tant Scout­mas­ter. My son is a Life Scout and is very close to earn­ing his Eagle. I am torn between let­ting him fin­ish the award or quit­ting my posts and tak­ing him with me. His Eagle will cer­tain­ly not mean as much since Boy Scouts has fall­en so far in the past few years and is doomed as an orga­ni­za­tion because of the recent deci­sion. Few actu­al boys will want to be asso­ci­at­ed with a gay and trans­gen­der friend­ly group that tents togeth­er. I feel bad for the boys cur­rent­ly in Scout­ing and those mil­lions who have gone before. The orga­ni­za­tion they joined has lit­tle resem­blance to the new “any­thing for a buck, who needs morals” orga­ni­za­tion.

  8. The Ghost of a Molested Once Innocent Boy says:

    The blas­phe­my and sac­ri­lege is astound­ing — and I’m a for­mer frat boy. And father of two boys whose souls I will pro­tect with my life.

    So let me be the first to damn the entire cor­po­rate direc­tor­ship, offi­cers and senior man­ag­er of the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca Cor­po­ra­tion TO HELL.

    May God have mer­cy on your (black) souls.

  9. teressa nickell says:

    Thought-pro­vok­ing sug­ges­tions . For my two cents if peo­ple need to fill out a Adult Appli­ca­tion Boy Scouts Of Amer­i­ca , my boss saw a tem­plate ver­sion here https://goo.gl/Rju74T.

  10. Lookupandbelieve says:

    In a meet­ing with the Key 3 at the last Nation­al Jam­boree, when asked about the future of the BSA. One of them in my inter­peta­tion basi­cal­ly said expect to see more girls in Scout­ing. Being that it was the first Nation­al Jam­boree to include the Ven­tur­ing girls and how worder­ful it was to see these young women in action. How excit­ed they were! I under­stand the val­ue of male bond­ing believe me. Ven­tur­ing crews can be all male, all female or mixed. You want male bond­ing you can have it. You want female bond­ing you have it. You want to risk male and female bond­ing? That is life! It works and it works well. Life is nev­er with­out chal­lenges.

    We need a BSA pro­gram to include girls from 7–13 yrs! YES, I know the name needs changed. Ven­tur­ing 14–18 yrs is under the BSA umbrel­la. Here is the thing the major­i­ty of girls today are not the girls of yes­ter­day, they love most of the same activ­i­ties that the boys love. This is not some­thing the Founders of Scout­ing could have imag­ined. How­ev­er, the US may be that last to wake up to this fact. It takes time!

    Let’s just pick on the LDS char­ter orga­ni­za­tion. They have a 8–11 old girls orga­ni­za­tion call Activ­i­ty Day girls, 12–18 they have an orga­ni­za­tion called Young Wom­ens. These are amaz­ing for girls spir­i­tu­al needs, but they do not meet all the lead­er­ship and activ­i­ty needs of future women in Amer­i­ca. They could me more, the girls always ask why can’t we do the activ­i­ties the boys are doing! They could be bet­ter moth­ers and women if they had lead­er­ship pro­grams like the BSA trail to eagle. The LDS church has con­sid­ered this. The prob­lem is the pro­gram doesn’t exist! To do the activ­i­ties the boys do in the LDS char­tered orga­ni­za­tions they need health INSURANCE plain and sim­ple. The BSA boys and Ven­tures have access to this insur­ance, it makes a huge dif­fer­ence. Most LDS mem­ber are com­plete­ly blind to this fact. Yes, the LDS lead­ers could cre­ate their own pro­grams and find an insur­ance com­pa­ny, but why rein­vent the wheel, when it already exists it just doesn’t come in pink! 

    I except to see girls from 8–13 in Scout­ing soon­er than a lat­er or at least I wish that. It is time! The LDS char­ter orga­ni­za­tion may be on board with that more than you have ever imag­ined. I know for a fact it has been con­sid­ered, but they can’t change the BSA overnight. Ever since that com­ment at the last Nation­al Jam­boree I have been watch­ing, wait­ing and explain­ing what no one seems to see and now seems with this lat­est change even more real. The young women of Amer­i­ca deserve it!

  11. WOW… these com­ments are shame­ful. I’d like to make a cou­ple of points here as I see so much mis­in­for­ma­tion being put forth.

    1. Trans­gen­der youth are NOT con­fused about their gen­der. If you think they are, per­haps you might want to do some research b/c there’s noth­ing more dam­ag­ing than igno­rance in action.

    2. Trans­gen­der boys, are boys and they will grow up to be men just like any oth­er boy with med­ical com­pli­ca­tions.

    3. I want­ed to include this b/c so many of you seem to have for­got­ten parts of it “Scout­ing is a val­ues-based pro­gram with its own code of con­duct. The Scout Oath and Law help instill the val­ues of good con­duct, respect for oth­ers, and hon­esty. Scouts learn skills that will last a life­time, includ­ing basic out­door skills, first aid, cit­i­zen­ship skills, lead­er­ship skills, and how to get along with oth­ers. For almost a cen­tu­ry, Scout­ing has instilled in young men the val­ues and knowl­edge that they will need to become lead­ers in their com­mu­ni­ties and coun­try.” “How to get along with oth­ers” seems to be lack­ing. Is this not some­thing you actu­al­ly val­ue?

    4. I’m not sure what the phrase “Polit­i­cal Cor­rect­ness” means to you but, when I was grow­ing up we called it “Com­mon Decen­cy” and, it showed folks that we val­ued good con­duct and respect for oth­ers.

  12. Elizabeth says:

    thank you for your many changes in the last few years. you are embrac­ing the spir­it of the boy scouts and includ­ing all who wish to expe­ri­ence that spir­it.
    go in joy

  13. Dave says:

    This news is very dis­ap­point­ing.  I got my eagle in 1964 and have been Scout­mas­ter of a troop here in Irvine since 1995.  I don’t know why it is con­sid­ered a good idea to make our youth and troop lead­ers deal with young­sters con­fused about their sex­u­al iden­ti­ty, or par­ents who are on a cru­sade.  I know most scout lead­ers will not have to deal with this, but I see in the papers that the mom of this new scout thinks the scout­mas­ter of the troop they sought to join should be removed. Last time we had a nation­al dia­logue for over a year, but this hap­pens overnight.   If the orga­ni­za­tion is not going to stand up for its val­ues, maybe it’s time for me to go do some­thing else.  This has been the great­est orga­ni­za­tion in the coun­try in sup­port­ing young men, but we only reach 10%.  Being polit­i­cal­ly cor­rect can­not be our mis­sion.

  14. Tyler says:

    I am very dis­ap­point­ed in the BSA. I was once a proud Eagle Scout and am cur­rent­ly a Scout­mas­ter. I find myself ashamed of BSA now and don’t know what to do. A piece of my heart is bro­ken. I will prob­a­bly leave the orga­ni­za­tion. Hor­ri­ble day. 

  15. Glen says:

    Opin­ion
       I have noth­ing against peo­ples per­son­al choic­es and I have had Gay and Les­bian friends for most of my life with­out ever judg­ing them for there choic­es, how­ev­er I became a scout mas­ter to assist boys on there jour­ney from boys to men not chil­dren to what­ev­er.
      I’m just say­ing

  16. George says:

    I am well pleased to know the Scout­ing is now open to trans­gen­der youth, whose desire to be scouts is so impor­tant. Inclu­sion is so delight­ful a way to let these youth that they are wor­thy, accept­able, and valu­able. Unfor­tu­nate­ly, the times are most dif­fi­cult, not sim­ply for those of us are LGBT.  Many thanks to you for open­ing this door. You’ve done a won­der­ful thing for so many young peo­ple!

  17. Michael says:

    I am cur­rent­ly the Webe­los 1 Den leader, and pack Chap­lain here in the Atlanta Coun­cil.  My son is a Webe­lo, and has been in the pro­gram since Tiger.  We are active Chris­tians in our local church, where I serve as a dea­con.  We were very wor­ried about him being in this pro­gram when you first announced allow­ing gays into the pro­gram and after­wards gay lead­ers.  We stayed because we are spon­sored by a local Chris­t­ian church and felt con­fi­dent they would not allow this to impact us.  So, this brings us to now.  So now you have announced allow­ing this soci­etal gen­der con­fu­sion to impact the pro­gram.  This is insane.  So to make things more con­sis­tent, I have some pro­pos­als for you.

    First, remove the entire Duty to God and all ref­er­ences to faith from the pro­gram.  Plu­ral­ism by def­i­n­i­tion proves a fal­si­ty.  The Chris­t­ian faith does not agree with the Mus­lim faith, and they both cant be true.  So if one is true, the oth­er is false.  So why try to please every­one and soft ped­dle the mes­sages of each faith so as not to offend some­one?  Just remove the faith aspect entire­ly from the pro­gram- you don’t believe it any­way.

    Sec­ond, remove the Boy title and change it to Scouts of Amer­i­ca.  There is now no dis­tinc­tion from boys and girls.  This is illog­i­cal.  So just drop the “Boy” from Boy Scouts and call it the “Scouts.”  This mass con­fu­sion that is spread­ing across our land has infect­ed your orga­ni­za­tion, and it is akin to teach­ing one plus one no longer equals two.

    How can you teach, “Keep myself moral­ly straight”?  What “moral­i­ty” are you fol­low­ing?  It is not the morals you were found­ed with. 

    Need­less to say, there will no longer be any inter­est in pro­vid­ing the orga­ni­za­tion with funds in the way of fund rais­ers.  Def­i­nite­ly will be no dona­tions to Friends of Scout­ing.  We will fin­ish our Webe­lo pro­gram, but will not be enter­ing the Troop lev­el.  We are not leav­ing Scouts, you have indeed left us.  Trail Life looks more won­der­ful to me- where we can raise men and not con­fused gen­der­less immoral cit­i­zens that have no con­vic­tions about what is real and what is false.  This is sad what you have done with this his­tor­i­cal­ly fine orga­ni­za­tion.

    Sad and dis­ap­point­ed.

    1. Anthony says:

      I mir­ror your state­ment exact­ly. We are bib­li­cal­ly called to wel­come, love all who God has cre­at­ed. It is not the per­son who I do not accept it is the actions of the per­son that I have a prob­lem with.
      God­ly prin­ci­ples have been removed from this orga­ni­za­tion. The point­er on the moral com­pass has become a wind sock.
      I noti­fied my par­ents last night that I will remain as SM for our troop until either asked by the com­mit­tee to step aside, the CO can­cels their char­ter, or 31 Decem­ber 2017.

  18. Kathleen says:

    I just want­ed to write to say I applaud your pol­i­cy change to allow trans­gen­der boys to join the scouts.

  19. Mary Jean-Byk says:

    My son is a scout and loves the pro­gram as do I.  While he at his age
    Strug­gles to under­stand LGBTQ issues, I am very much in the pro­gres­sive
    Move­ment of this com­mu­ni­ty as a Social Work­er and Amer­i­can; and,  I will sup­port BSA pol­i­cy
    And be sup­port­ive of my son to under­stand.

  20. erstach says:

    From this point on the orga­ni­za­tion must be called Scouts of Ame­ica. Every­thing from this point or pri­or to this point must be aster­isked. I have always felt the BSA was about the bot­tom line and this goes to prove it. Next scout­ing will have to admit card car­ry­ing ter­ror­ist and ani­mals iden­ti­fy­ing as human.

  21. Sarah says:

    I am sad­dened by the direc­tion BSA has been tak­ing. The orga­ni­za­tion seems to be tak­ing the wide road. God in cor­rages us to take the nar­row road, the road less trav­elsd. He did not say it would be easy, but the reward at the end is worth all the strug­gles. I know in the 90’s GSA allowed God to be option­al. You didn’t have to use His name or you could just sub­sti­tute what­ev­er you want­ed. A mom named Pat­ty start­ed Amer­i­can Her­itage Girls, a Chris­t­ian based scout­ing orga­ni­za­tion, because she didn’t agree with the direc­tion the GSA com­pa­ny was head­ed. They allined with the BSA in 2010, but end­ed that rela­tion­ship just a few years lat­er because of the direc­tion the BSA is head­ed. Amer­i­can Her­itage Girls helped form Trail Life USA, a Chris­t­ian based scout­ing orga­ni­za­tion for boys.
    Take a stand against the dis­ser­vices BSA is doing for our boys. Let the voic­es of the major­i­ty be heard. We are an orga­ni­za­tion that is for boys. I’m not say­ing hate. Jesus says to Love your neigh­bor, but He doesn’t say to become like them or lay down and let the “their way or the high­way” minor­i­ty dic­tate your beliefs. If we allow this, in five more years what will be except­able.
    If we tell our chil­dren that God is right, except when soci­ety says He’s wrong, what are we real­ly teach­ing our chil­dren? What do we want the BSA to hear. Will our voic­es be heard. I think we shouldn’t just say we are going to do some­thing about it, but do what we say. The only thing that real­ly tells peo­ple what we want is mon­ey. Don’t re-new. BSA announced their deci­sion after they got our mon­ey. When they see a drop in the rechar­ter process is when they will take us seri­ous­ly.
    The LGBTQ… com­mu­ni­ty can form their own non-Chris­t­ian scout­ing orga­ni­za­tion, but that’s not what they want. They want every­one to except their way of think­ing and if you don’t your wrong. They want to take our free­dom to be indi­vid­u­als away by exclud­ing those who don’t think the way they do. They spon­sor stop bul­ly cam­paigns in our children’s schools telling our chil­dren that bul­ly­ing is wrong while one the oth­er hand they bul­ly their views on every­one. Do as we say, not as we do.
    I am a Chris­t­ian. I love the Lord with all my heart, all my might and all my soul. I do not force my views on oth­ers I don’t say you have to believe the way I do. I am ask­ing that the LGBTQ… com­mu­ni­ty doesn’t force their views on me and my fam­i­ly. The BSA was start­ed with a focus on duty to God. If they don’t like that, it’s okay. I’m not forc­ing them to join the BSA. They, on the oth­er hand, our forc­ing all of us who want duty to God in scout­ing to allow them to change the BSA.
    I am not against those who choose to be LGBTQ… or in their com­mu­ni­ty. My eldest son says he is gay. He knows I love him uncon­di­tion­al­ly as God loves me. I do not agree with his deci­sions, but will always love him. I let him know the stan­dards of our fam­i­ly. I also let him know that God gave us free­dom of choice. I am not forced to wor­ship God nor will I force my son to wor­ship God. I will love my son and I hope I am liv­ing a good Chris­t­ian exam­ple for him. I want him to see Christ in me. This is why I can’t allow the LGBTQ… com­mu­ni­ty to dic­tate how I will raise my boys. I eldest boy does agree with me that if they don’t like how the BSA is ran that they should start their own scout­ing orga­ni­za­tion that allows every­one and any­one to join instead of forc­ing oth­ers to believe the way they do. My eldest says the LGBTQ… com­mu­ni­ty preach­es love and tol­er­ance, except when it comes to Chris­t­ian groups and peo­ple.
    You don’t see the LGBTQ… com­mu­ni­ty forc­ing Jew­ish, Mus­lim, or Bude­hist orga­ni­za­tions or reli­gious com­mu­ni­ties to except them. It is just the Chris­t­ian ones they have attacked since the 80’s. I will nev­er ask them to believe the way I do, so I expect them not to force me to their way of think­ing. Pro­tect our chil­dren and their morals. Don’t break down to please the few.

  22. Kristina Overtoom says:

    What I am upset about is the fact that I had to hear this from a nation­al news orga­ni­za­tion first rather than the local lead­ship, who also were unaware that this was being con­sid­ered. The BSA needs to do a MUCH bet­ter job of com­mu­ni­cat­ing pol­i­cy changes to its meme­ber­ship. As for the actu­al pol­i­cy, I think it will cause local orga­ni­za­tions to think through pol­i­cy regard­ing how to relate kind­ly to Amer­i­cans who are dif­fer­ent, which is a ben­e­fit to our coun­try and liv­ing out God’s “gold­en rule” and roy­al law and both sides could be changed for the bet­ter.

  23. Christopher Rhodes says:

    Its time to for every God fear­ing par­ent to get their chil­dren out of this per­vert­ed orga­ni­za­tion. No way is some­one so per­vert­ed and con­fused that it has to come up with a new type of gen­der to describe “how it iden­ti­fies” going to have any thing to do with my chil­dren

  24. Christopher Rhodes says:

    Its time for all God abid­ing cit­i­zens to get our chil­dren out of this per­vert­ed orga­ni­za­tion. No way is any of these per­verts that are so con­fused that they have to invent a spe­cial gen­der to explain “how they iden­ti­fy” going to have any­thing to do with my child.

  25. SH says:

    As the moth­er of an Eagle Scout and a for­mer vol­un­teer, I praise the deci­sion of the BSA to admit all boys into their orga­ni­za­tion. They have thank­ful­ly end­ed a dis­crim­i­na­to­ry prac­tice.

  26. Dave McGrath says:

    It’s so dodgy. The Nation­al Com­mis­sion­er says “This is up to the local unit to make the deter­mi­na­tion and to the char­tered part­ners and they will make the deter­mi­na­tions.” It’s as if the Nation­al Pro­gram has no back­bone and dodges on whether or not we’ll live the Scout Law.

    In 1908 our founder Robert Baden-Pow­ell made it very clear in the orig­i­nal Scout­ing For Boys Hand­book: “A Scout is a Friend to all — and a broth­er [or sis­ter] to every oth­er scout, no mat­ter the coun­try, class or creed to which the oth­er may belong.”

    The deter­mi­na­tion of who was in or who was out was NEVER left up to whether or not they believed in this god or that god, or whichev­er coun­try, or what­ev­er pol­i­tics. THIS is what Scout­ing is: A promise we’ll nev­er aban­don you.

    And yet, the Nation­al Pro­gram has been aban­don­ing kids for gen­er­a­tions — not just the gays, the queers, the blacks or the trans. Why, they still aban­don girls and young women. And for­get about those that can­not believe in the Chris­t­ian God of Trump which aban­dons Mus­lims and Immi­grants. The Nation­al Pro­gram con­tin­ues to dodge and weave and offer Alt+Scout pro­grams — which nev­er let girls or athe­ists earn Eagles or Mer­it Badges.

    It’s about time they’ve made this par­tial good turn — to allow those kids who are inter­sex and wrong­ly gen­dered at birth, or trans and under­stand them­selves as a gen­der dif­fer­ent than their pant-size. Yes: It’s about time. And con­sid­er the Full Good Turn has yet to occur: the wel­com­ing of Every Child into scout­ing. In a way that includes appro­pri­ate pro­gram sup­port and train­ing at the local lev­el on up. Rather than the dodgy lip-ser­vice of being inclu­sive, with a de fac­to sex and gen­der and creed exclu­sive mem­ber­ship which under the aus­pices of Nation­al Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca in fact con­tin­ues and extends insti­tu­tion­al dis­crim­i­na­tion by tol­er­at­ing the unspeak­able big­otry of the char­ter­ing orga­ni­za­tions which con­tin­ue their pogrom against LGBTQ per­sons and Females and athe­ists.

    1. Sarah Garrett says:

      Dave, I whole­heart­ed­ly agree with you! Unfor­tu­nate­ly some­times progress is slow…especially when you are teth­ered to big­ots because they’re the ones with the wal­lets. I look for­ward to the oppor­tu­ni­ty to make my CS Pack even more inclu­sive in the future.

      I keep read­ing com­ments from these “good Chris­t­ian” folks who repeat­ed­ly say that (and I will quote one) “They (LGBTQ) want every­one to accept their way of think­ing and if you don’t your wrong. They want to take our free­dom to be indi­vid­u­als away by exclud­ing those who don’t think the way they do.” I am blown away by the igno­rance in their own state­ments that they are using to defend their back­ward think­ing! What you are claim­ing the LGBTQ are doing to you “good Chris­t­ian” folks is EXACTLY what has been done to them for decades! All they are have ever asked is to be allowed the same priv­i­leges as every oth­er Amer­i­can, regard­less of their race, reli­gion, sex­u­al ori­en­ta­tion or iden­ti­ty.

      The BSA is an orga­ni­za­tion whose core val­ues are ones that NEED TO BE SHARED WITH EVERYONE!!!! Our goal is to cre­ate a bet­ter world for future gen­er­a­tions and that begins in our home com­mu­ni­ties by shar­ing decent human respect and show­ing oth­ers how to have strong char­ac­ter.

  27. David Montgomery says:

    As an LDS mem­ber and hav­ing been in scout­ing for years, the church has played a major role in being char­ter orga­ni­za­tion. A fac­tor that has not been addressed is the Priest­hood in our orga­ni­za­tion. The Duty To God Award is earned by being active in his role as a Priest­hood bear­er.
    I have seen par­ents put their chil­dren in bad sit­u­a­tions, not because the child want­ed to, but what the par­ents felt need­ed to be in the best inter­est of the child. Not good!
    A young lady who decides to become a trans­gen­der can­not earn the Duty To God award because, in our reli­gion, Priest­hood (Gods plan, not ours) is held by the male and the duties of it can only be done by a male who is set apart to do so.
    By today’s stan­dards some of soci­ety declares that as being prej­u­di­cial, in which case, I can see law suits appear­ing because the trans­gen­der can’t earn her Duty To God award. 

    This was not a wise choice of the BSA direc­tors, and it will fur­ther divide those who believe in God’s laws, and the laws of man.

  28. David E. Green says:

    I am encour­aged by the Nation­al Commisioner’s words and his empha­sis on the safe­ty of our youth. We will see a ben­e­fit from this change as the pro­gram con­tin­ues to grow as inclu­siv­i­ty becomes a real part of Scout­ing and not a buzz­word dur­ing Wood Badge. For those who leave, you are doing the pro­gram a favor by not spread­ing your fear and hate with­in the BSA. Thank you for being brave enough to admit you can’t meet this chal­lenge. There are excel­lent oppor­tu­ni­ties for peo­ple who want a club that excludes the non-Chris­t­ian (Trail Life) and pro­grams that are com­plete­ly inclu­sive such as the Baden-Pow­ell Ser­vice Asso­ci­a­tion. Full dis­clo­sure: I am also reg­is­tered with BPSA. As an Eagle Scout and Assis­tant Scout­mas­ter I will con­tin­ue to make Scout­ing inclu­sive and safe for our youth. 

    I dis­agree with an ear­li­er com­ment. I don’t believe God makes mis­takes. We should embrace our dif­fer­ences and reach out and help each oth­er. That is what the Scout Oath and Law are all about. Good job BSA! Mov­ing in the right direc­tion! BSA evolves. Embrace change or you will miss oppor­tu­ni­ties.

  29. Craig says:

    I find it high­ly coin­ci­den­tal that this announce­ment comes out after we all just rechar­tered and paid for anoth­er year. I guar­an­tee that if this came out before we had to rechar­ter, our packs/troops would have left and joined an orga­ni­za­tion more aligned with our val­ues. I’m sure the Boyscouts are count­ing on us all for­get­ting about this before 2018 rechar­ter.

    1. Anthony says:

      So I was not the only one to see this fact as coin­ci­den­tal. I would also add that most have paid in full or a sig­nif­i­cant por­tion to attend Jam­bo by this time also. It just stinks.

  30. Kendell says:

    Just want­ed to send out my sup­port to those who have to make these tough deci­sions and deal with the var­ied respons­es. It can’t be an easy job. I’m a proud Eagle Scout who is grate­ful for the pos­i­tive BSA expe­ri­ences I had as a young man and I under­stand what it can mean for boys across the coun­try. I also under­stand what my church’s poli­cies are regard­ing the mat­ter (I’m LDS). What I don’t under­stand ful­ly is homo­sex­u­al­i­ty and trans­gen­derism, but I’m try­ing to learn. A lot of what I have uncov­ered tells me that I’ve mis­un­der­stood quite a bit. From my expe­ri­ence, there are a lot of excel­lent peo­ple out there (who might hap­pen to be gay or trans­gen­der) who can do a lot of good and want to be part of a great orga­ni­za­tion like the BSA. Sure, there will be some bad apples or dif­fi­cult sit­u­a­tions mixed in, but I don’t think any more so than with the usu­al crowd. I’m not sure what all these pol­i­cy changes will bring and I’m not entire­ly sure how to inte­grate all of this, but I’m will­ing to give it a go and see what comes of it.

  31. Brice Elliott says:

    Here is an orga­ni­za­tion that has real­ly lost their way. This is a hor­ri­ble, hor­ri­ble deci­sion. If this makes it’s way to our troop, we’ll look for a more a less pro­gres­sive orga­ni­za­tion that has tra­di­tion­al val­ues. This doesn’t align with what God teach­es or our fam­i­ly val­ues. Very dis­ap­point­ing.

  32. Kelly Smith says:

    The BSA has seen a sig­nif­i­cant decline in the num­ber of mem­bers since they allowed open­ly gay lead­ers to join and lead the boys since 2013. Are they some­how expect­ing an increase in boys by this new pol­i­cy? There are so few actu­al “trans­gen­ders” in the world that we are not just allow­ing the tail to wag the dog here, we are allow­ing a sin­gle hair on the end of the tail to wag the dog. When you fail to stand for some­thing, why sup­port it? I don’t see how the LDS Church will sup­port this (let alone most oth­ers).

    But this real­ly isn’t about trans­gen­derism any­way. Just today my son announced that some girl in his mid­dle school has announced she will now go by a boys name and wear the boys uni­form. It actu­al­ly hap­pens quite fre­quent­ly too. This is far more of an atten­tion-get­ting activ­i­ty and in real­i­ty, a pride thing. But beside all of that, hor­mones and changes in the growth of youth, devel­op feel­ings that will go away over time and sup­port­ing or even pro­mot­ing such changes will bring dras­tic prob­lems in the future. They need guid­ance to rec­og­nize that they need to stay on the path of their gen­der. The sui­cide rate for those who have adopt­ed trans­gen­derism is stag­ger­ing and now amount of “accep­tance” by soci­ety is going to change that. 

    This is not a wise thing to do. It won’t be good for the BSA. It cer­tain­ly won’t be good for those young peo­ple who have less and less role mod­els to look up to.

  33. Jim in SLC says:

    I think the new trans­gen­der pol­i­cy is the right move. There are a lot of wicked prej­u­dices from the past. We have to be will­ing to soft­en our hearts let go of some of the wicked tra­di­tions of our fathers when we fig­ure out they are wrong. 

    I grew up in the 80s and did and said a lot of things I’m not proud of. There was one par­tic­u­lar kid in my high school class that every­one was sure was gay. I thought I was so fun­ny when I made fun of him. Now I look back and know I was in the wrong. 

    Trans­gen­der kids aren’t dan­ger­ous. They aren’t per­verts. If any­thing, the trans­gen­der kids are the ones we need to pro­tect from the mean-spir­it­ed things oth­er kids do. 

    And, above all, we def­i­nite­ly don’t need to let our kids hear us repeat wicked, world­ly views about trans­gen­der kids being “messed up” or per­verts or dan­ger­ous.

  34. R. Athey says:

    As a psy­chi­a­trist who deals with teens who have mul­ti­ple psy­chi­atric dis­or­ders, and a Scout and leader for the past 40+ years, I think that this is a mis­take. It is actu­al­ly harm­ful to the very teens you are seek­ing to admit. To encour­age a trans­gen­dered youth to act out their per­cep­tion that they are some­thing dif­fer­ent than what their biol­o­gy says, is to facil­i­tate this and make it even more ingrained and less like­ly to change. A full 70–80% of trans­gen­dered youth will change their mind by the time they are in their mid 20’s. These types of soci­etal accep­tances will only con­fuse them more. Even trans­gen­dered surgery results in more dis­sat­is­fac­tion and an increased risk of sui­cide accord­ing to stud­ies. Being accept­ing of what they per­ceive them­selves to be is no more ben­e­fi­cial that telling some­one who is anorex­ic and per­ceives that they are fat that it is OK to starve them­selves to death. Soci­ety is mak­ing a huge mis­take with this issue, and so are the Boy Scout lead­er­ship in my opin­ion as a pro­fes­sion­al.

  35. ctill says:

    Why can’t BSA open up a new type of scout­ing for youth that is uni­sex? That way any­one can join. Ven­ture crew is coed but you have to be old­er, just like Boy Scouts. How about some­thing like Cub Scouts but unisex/coed. They can still do every­thing a scout can do but it won’t be so awk­ward for the Boy Scouts and won’t cause any issues when camp­ing and deal­ing with the bud­dy sys­tem. Just a thought.

    1. John F Kennedy says:

      They were try­ing to bring the Her­itage Girls into the BSA, but that ALL end­ed sev­er­al years ago when BSA decid­ed to allow open­ly homo­sex­u­alilty scouts. The Her­itage Girls offi­cial­ly end­ed all ties with BSA.

  36. Father of 2 Eagles says:

    Girl Eagle Scouts? Geesh. Just let every­one in and be done with it. No wait, once every­one is in they will keep chang­ing things. And keep chang­ing things and keep chang­ing things. This is ridicu­lous. GSA refused to merge with BSA in the 80’s. It is the GSA that keeps USA scouts in two dif­fer­ent pro­grams. Can’t say the BSA didn’t try. So when are the boys going to get to join GSA and sell girl scout cook­ies in their sash­es?

  37. Gary Miller says:

    Lot’s of girls have wished they could be in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. So what’s to stop any odd girl from claim­ing to be a boy just so they can be a Scout?

  38. Eagle Scout and Scoutmaster says:

    Reli­gious BSA scout­mas­ters find our­selves lead­ing our young men on a path now paved with con­fu­sion and hypocrisy depen­dent on a com­pass no longer moral­ly straight but con­trary to God and point­ing to cer­tain calami­ty and decay. Our duty to God is to fol­low His path rely­ing on His Spir­it as our moral com­pass. BSA pol­i­cy prin­ci­ples have become dri­ven with the winds of weak­ness and tossed by the tem­pests of today. All are val­ued and wor­thy of res­cue but that must not jus­ti­fy jeop­ar­diz­ing, inten­tion­al­ly
    or neg­li­gent­ly, the safe­ty of the entire young, impres­sion­able flock.

  39. Tom says:

    Too much time is spent by BSA accom­mo­dat­ing and com­pro­mis­ing with an unsub­stan­ti­at­ed men­tal and phys­i­cal issue. This detracts and diverts from our already stretched-thin pro­grams for the boys. For the BSA nation­al lead­er­ship: Please ask the trans­gen­der peo­ple to find anoth­er pro­gram.

  40. David G Abbott says:

    Where can I find this pol­i­cy in writ­ten Form so I can present the facts to my char­ter­ing orga­ni­za­tion?

  41. Mark says:

    Reli­gious BSA scout­mas­ters find our­selves lead­ing our young men on a path now paved with con­fu­sion and hypocrisy depen­dent on a com­pass no longer moral­ly straight but con­trary to God and point­ing to cer­tain calami­ty and decay. Our duty to God is to fol­low His path rely­ing on His Spir­it as our moral com­pass.

  42. Todd says:

    My son and I are leav­ing scouts. The nation­al lead­er­ship (if you can call it that) are cow­ards and deserve con­tempt. What next will the nation­al lead­er­ship cave into and turn around tell us they were coura­geous? Moral­ly straight, real­ly? A boy or man are not in the mind. Being a boy or man is not a whim­sy of thought, it is biol­o­gy. Either you have the bio­log­i­cal parts, hor­mones and etc, or you do not. Tol­er­ance does not mean accep­tance. It does mean I have to accept your lead­er­ships view.

  43. P. Dabbs says:

    1st… a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl. There is noth­ing mys­te­ri­ous or dif­fi­cult to under­stand about the state­ment. It’s a fact. No amount of talk/reasoning/philosophizing can change that fact. A scout­ing orga­ni­za­tion was set up for males (boys) and one for females (girls). The first: the Boy Scouts, the sec­ond: the Girl Scouts. How do you deter­mine who is a boy and who is a girl? There is a phys­i­cal dif­fer­ence between the two. Boys have some­thing a girl doesn’t have, and girls have some­thing a boy doesn’t have.
    Maybe if we take this to dif­fer­ent lev­el I can explain it bet­ter. Cat­tle. There are males (bulls) and females (cows). 1. No mat­ter how much you may want to, you will nev­er be able to milk a bull. That’s no bull! It’s just not pos­si­ble. They don’t have a bag under­neath with milk in it. 2. No mat­ter how hard to try to mate two bulls, you will nev­er have any heifers. 1 bull + 1 bull does not equal 2 bulls and 1 heifer. It is just 2 bulls. If you put a male bull with a female cow then a heifer is pro­duced which will drink the milk that is in the moth­er cow’s bag. Wow!
    What hap­pens when one bull tries to ‘make it’ with anoth­er bull? The first time he might just get down and go his way. The next time he might get a nip or jabbed by a cou­ple of horns. This can either be called nat­ur­al con­se­quences or dis­ci­pline. But the bull learns that there is a dif­fer­ence between him, his bull bud­dy, and all the oth­er cows.
    Humans. Before we get to the mat­ing part (which is sim­i­lar in both species) the dis­ci­pline part enters in. If the male gets con­fused his par­ents do what is called ‘teach’ or ‘instruct’ so the male under­stands what his sex is. When a female gets con­fused her par­ents do the same thing with her. If the child has a prob­lem remem­ber­ing which he/she is, the par­ent is there to help him/her under­stand. No mat­ter how much talking/reasoning/philosophizing is done, that fact can­not be changed. The parent’s task is to explain, instruct, cor­rect when there is a prob­lem or mis­take in think­ing.
    It seems that we have a few con­fused boys, some con­fused girls, and a lot of con­fused par­ents who don’t under­stand what their role is in help­ing their ‘bulls’ and ‘cows’ under­stand the facts.

  44. Mark Pugh says:

    I have had a great adven­ture in Boy Scouts. The new direc­tion of BSA and ignor­ing over 110 years of tra­di­tion and lead­er­ship should not not be shelved for spe­cial inter­est groups.
    Please remove me from the Voice of Scout­ing.
    To remain true to the 1900 BSA Con­si­tu­tion and Bylaws, I must now resign from BSA after 10 years. 

    You do not hear my voice.

  45. Craig says:

    I think it is inter­est­ing that the Boy Scouts chose to wait till after all the troops and packs re-char­tered for 2017 before they made this announce­ment. Took all the mon­ey and now they are hop­ing every­one will have a short mem­o­ry and for­get about this before 2018 re-enroll­ment. They should have made this announce­ment in Sep­tem­ber and let every­one decide to sign back up instead of forc­ing us to be part of an orga­ni­za­tion that now dis­agrees with many of our moral val­ues. Very dis­ap­point­ed in the direc­tion of the orga­ni­za­tion.

  46. RG says:

    Are we chang­ing the name to Trans­gen­dered Scouts of Amer­i­ca! Why are we falling to the polit­i­cal pres­sures. We are a pri­vate orga­ni­za­tion I am non judge­men­tal but I love this pro­gram for val­ues it teach­es. It isthe aim and meth­ods of scout­ing.

  47. Dr. Tyrone says:

    Yes, Scout­ing will still be here tomor­row. But the LDS Church will not be a char­tered mem­ber for much longer. Good luck with Friends of Scout­ing next fall. Let the mad­ness con­tin­ue.

    1. Concerned says:

      Dr Tyrone,
      Since Charles Dahlquist is the for­mer LDS Gen­er­al Young Men Pres­i­dent, it’s pret­ty obvi­ous he’s mak­ing the video as a token mem­ber to assuage issues with the LDS mem­ber­ship. It doesn’t appear that the COs had a lot of notice, and nei­ther did the Coun­cil Execs in a lot of cas­es. This is an even big­ger impact than the change over homo­sex­u­al­i­ty, yet it was done with­out mem­ber­ship involve­ment and qui­et­ly and rel­a­tive­ly secret­ly. The LDS Church respond­ed with sim­i­lar word­ing to the pre­vi­ous change, which does not bode well, but I expect it won’t be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, yet. But I won­der how often Nation­al thinks they’ll get away with this type of behav­ior.
      They are heav­i­ly play­ing the units can deter­mine their own mem­ber­ship game, but the real­i­ty is that based on the recent law­suit, they are just pass­ing the lia­bil­i­ty down to the CO to deal with the legal ram­i­fi­ca­tions.

  48. Toe says:

    I ques­tioned the allow­ing gay lead­ers to par­tic­i­pate in scout­ing before it was vot­ed on and the Orange Coun­ty Coun­cil ( Cal­i­for­nia) lead­ers sent me an email and told me to shut up, the deci­sion has already been made. 

    Dahlquist is a cow­ard. Cav­ing into pan­der to the almighty dol­lar. He should not receive a dime from scout­ing funds. Under mind­ing the scout­ing pro­gram to com­plete­ly wipe away scout­ing morals. I am done with BSA. SHAME ON YOU DAHLQUIST!!!!

  49. Robert Baden Powell says:

    The BSA cor­po­rate lead­er­ship is now mak­ing deci­sions based on donors demands rather than explic­it fed­er­al require­ments. BSA cor­po­rate lead­er­ship is only try­ing to save their mon­e­tary inter­ests as long as pos­si­ble. BSA cor­po­rate lead­er­ship should have let cor­rupt judges run the BSA into the ground first, rather than let the boys watch the spine­less lead­er­ship do it them­selves. To start mak­ing inter­nal deci­sions in this direc­tion is ridicu­lous, espe­cial­ly with a new POTUS who would assist to pro­tect the BSA. You may get to keep your mon­ey for 2–3 more years but with­out “XY” Chro­mo­some BOYS the BSA will soon implode. Con­grat­u­la­tions on tak­ing the easy road. Your FOS dona­tions are suf­fer­ing, and your big cor­po­rate dona­tions will be gone soon too. Have fun pil­fer­ing all the BSA assets we all worked so hard to acquire for you!!!

  50. J.B. Clayton says:

    Very sad day. I have been an adult leader of scouts for over 40 years. My father was an adult leader for over 25 years. I will resign this week. I will not accept the lia­bil­i­ty.

  51. HDL says:

    Thank you BSA! You have done the right thing here. Very proud to be a leader of this orga­ni­za­tion.

  52. Andrew Thomas says:

    I am an Eagle Scout and worked at scout camps in high school and col­lege, I have also been a scout­mas­ter. I am hon­est­ly very sad­dened by a pro­gram that con­tin­ues to drop core val­ues about moral­i­ty. They helped me so much in my life in keep­ing my bear­ings strait and bring­ing real hap­pi­ness. The recent changes on adult lead­er­ship and this last one with trans­gen­der leave me cold and dis­il­lu­sioned. I under­stand that the Boy Scouts are in a tough posi­tion and times are chang­ing, but core val­ues are sup­posed to be time­less.

  53. Jared H says:

    None of us have a clue what the admin­is­tra­tion in BSA goes through on a dai­ly basis to han­dle all the law­suits and issues that come. It is easy to sit on the side­lines and dic­tate to those inside how to deal with issues, I believe they held off this deci­sion as long as they could. Besides there is a caveat that allows the char­ter to make the deci­sion. I do not have to agree with their deci­sion, but it is still one of the only mul­ti-eccle­si­as­ti­cal orga­ni­za­tions that con­tin­ues to help all our youth become hon­or­able and pro­duc­tive cit­i­zens. I would also be care­ful not to shoot holes in the boat we are still float­ing on.

  54. Dennis says:

    My con­cern is how to keep my scouts safe and dis­pel par­ents fears of mixed sex when even I do not know. No scout should sleep alone which means if I have 1 trans­gen­der that I do not even know about they will share a tent with a boy. Giv­en the trans­gen­der girl will be more devel­oped and mature for the age group and boys will be curi­ous boys, and girls will be curi­ous girls (boys) how do I make sure no fun­ny busi­ness is going to hap­pen. Is my only sign that I have a trans­gen­der is when every­one wants to bunk with Bob­bi. I’m not sure I want to take on the legal respon­si­bil­i­ty and giv­en how many of today’s gen­er­a­tion are law­suit hap­py, this deci­sion is a bad one in my view. I think my days of tak­ing boy scouts on cam­pouts are num­bered.

  55. BJM says:

    Is this deci­sion real­ly in the best inter­est of chil­dren with gen­der dys­pho­ria? Will it solve any of the chal­lenges of gen­der dys­pho­ria? Is a par­ent of a 8 or 9 year-old girl, who is expe­ri­enc­ing gen­der dys­pho­ria, act­ing in the child’s best inter­est by push­ing this issue in the media and courts? Will require­ments to keep these girls with gen­der dys­pho­ria safe add sig­nif­i­cant­ly to the already chal­leng­ing respon­si­bil­i­ties of affect­ed Scout lead­ers?

    I just do not believe this was done (by par­ents or BSA) in the best inter­ests of the affect­ed chil­dren. It is all about image, pol­i­tics and social engi­neer­ing agen­das. That is what’s real­ly sad.

    1. Jungleboy says:

      Lts get real here Amer­i­ca, God does not make mis­takes. We are born with cer­tain body parts that deter­mine our gen­der. Just because cer­tain polit­i­cal offi­cials are seek­ing elec­tion or reelec­tion and change the def­i­n­i­tion of what gen­der is, does not change the fact that it boils down to just two gen­ders, as it always has been. BSA used to be con­nect­ed to God, who is a per­fect God, now they have become an indus­try seek­ing after $$. The moral code and ethics of BSA are lost. I will no longer donate to BSA, but rather seek pro­grams for my kids that are based on facts, like the fact that there is only make or female, no mat­ter hw you cut it, and this places many Char­ter Orga­ni­za­tions at great legal risk. Time for BSA to take a stance and be what it used to be, or go down in his­to­ry like all of the Latin Scout­ing Pro­grams have done. NO BOY wants to be a part of some­thing that has no Char­ac­ter and mean­ing. Time to wake up Amer­i­ca!! Before we give away our farm to sat­is­fy the few!

  56. Stacy Stine says:

    Those who like to defend the BSA lead­er­ship like to argue “you have to accept any kid (not boy any­more) into your troop but you still have lat­i­tude as a char­ter orga­ni­za­tion in only allow­ing lead­ers who meet your moral/religious stan­dard.” To which I say yes for now , but what about 6 months from now? Every 6–12 months the BSA nation­al moves the bar, cre­ates a new stan­dard base don polit­i­cal cor­rect­ness or the whims and fan­cies of large coro­po­rate donors. They have proven that there is no PRINCIPLE of any kind that they are not will­ing to bend or dis­re­gard when they feel it is in their inter­est.

  57. Tony Anderegg says:

    This is a very sad day for Scout­ing. I am an Eagle Scout. So are my three broth­ers and my two sons. I have been a Pack Com­mit­tee Chair, an Asst. Scout­mas­ter, and Philmont Crew Advi­sor (x3). I sev­ered my rela­tion­ship with the Boy Scouts at the imple­men­ta­tion of their gay youth pol­i­cy.

    I encour­age any and all who feel betrayed (once again) by the nation­al lead­er­ship to join Trail Life USA.

    1. Kevin Crookston says:

      Thank you for telling us about Trail Life USA. I am impressed with their unashamed, straight­for­ward, uncom­pro­mis­ing mis­sion state­ment. They stayed the course when BSA took a deture. Was Trail Life USA found­ed by for­mer scout lead­ers? The ele­ments of the pro­gram look the same, with the tra­di­tion­al val­ues the BSA used to have.

    2. Mike Acker says:

      If under­stand where you are com­ing from; as a leader for the past 22 years I feel the BSA is no longer the moral stan­dard that the nation has always looked to it as. Soon I will sad­ly part my ways with BSA as it is no longer an hon­or­able orga­ni­za­tion, but instead run by a bunch of weak backed cow­ards that give into any lit­tle spe­cial inter­est group.

  58. Scoutmaster RA says:

    I am not going to get into Bible vers­es or rant on going to hell but I am struck by the Scout Oath that states our “Duty to God”. I have been both­ered by the var­i­ous changes over the years but this one sticks to worst. I don’t see how the BSA can claim a Duty to God when they are now very loud­ly pro­claim­ing this:

    God makes mis­takes

    I have peers that claim the Duty to God is some­what loose based on the num­ber of reli­gions out there. The fact is, we have evolved to be more accept­ing of reli­gions but there is no reli­gion that believes in God (or some form of Him) that believes he makes mis­takes. When He made every per­son He assigned them a role in life. We do not have the right to say we are a gen­der oth­er than that which we were born and then decide to cor­rect the “mis­take” God made when we were born.
    This closed door deci­sion that had no need in being made, is a very poor, very un-Scout-like deci­sion. Unfor­tu­nate­ly, with the path the BSA has tak­en I like­ly have to mod­i­fy that belief to say that is actu­al­ly IS a Scout-like deci­sion.
    I have an Eagle and a Webe­los. I con­tin­ue to give the best I have under the prin­ci­ples I believe but this is very sad­den­ing. I believe the pol­i­tics of the day are destroy­ing a group that I love(d) being a part of.

    1. ADC Duty to God says:

      With all due respect, please do not pre­tend that you know God’s will for every­one. Per­haps this is all part of his plan. Has he rev­eled some­thing to you of which the rest of us are unaware?

      (James 1:22–25New Inter­na­tion­al Ver­sion (NIV))
      22 Do not mere­ly lis­ten to the word, and so deceive your­selves. Do what it says. 23 Any­one who lis­tens to the word but does not do what it says is like some­one who looks at his face in a mir­ror 24 and, after look­ing at him­self, goes away and imme­di­ate­ly for­gets what he looks like. 25 But who­ev­er looks intent­ly into the per­fect law that gives free­dom, and con­tin­ues in it—not for­get­ting what they have heard, but doing it—they will be blessed in what they do.

  59. DX says:

    As an Eagle Scout and as an adult leader I can say I ful­ly sup­port this deci­sion. Many of you are act­ing like these chil­dren are some how evil or wrong. You are act­ing like these chil­dren have no morals or set of ethics that will allow them to be good scouts, good cit­i­zens, and peo­ple who care about mak­ing a dif­fer­ence in the world. Are you real­ly will­ing to throw away mul­ti­ple points of the scout oath and scout law to chas­tise these chil­dren because you can’t see past your own per­son­al bias?
    Where is the kind­ness towards peo­ple who want to be includ­ed in the scouts? Where is the cour­tesy of giv­ing every child a chance to grow into a bet­ter per­son because of scout­ing? Where is the brav­ery of stand­ing up against pet­ty dif­fer­ences between indi­vid­u­als and break­ing down bar­ri­ers that divide us instead of uni­fy us? How are you being help­ful to a scout if you are turn­ing them away for being dif­fer­ent instead of teach­ing the life skills that will make them more suc­cess­ful in the future? Are you being friend­ly in any capac­i­ty to these chil­dren by turn­ing them away for being dif­fer­ent?
    These chil­dren who want to be scouts are phys­i­cal­ly strong every day they wake up and walk into a world where they face the chal­lenges and dis­crim­i­na­tion from the com­mu­ni­ty. They are clear­ly men­tal­ly awake as they are aware of what is going on around them and that they are clear­ly unwant­ed by some aspects of soci­ety. You might ques­tion them being “moral­ly straight”, but since when has gen­der iden­ti­ty or sex­u­al ori­en­ta­tion played a role in how kin­da, gen­er­ous, char­i­ta­ble, or help­ful a scout can be?
    Some of you are going to say “A scout is rev­er­ent.” First off, when did any one point of the scout law car­ry more weight than the oth­ers? Sec­ond, if you are tru­ly rev­er­ent to God then you will remem­ber the teach­ings of Christs and be accept­ing of a sin­ner no mat­ter what. Jesus said love and for­give every­one. Peri­od.
    Most impor­tant­ly, some of you for­get what scout­ing is real­ly all about. It is about the chil­dren and teach­ing them about the world and help­ing to mold them into bet­ter cit­i­zens and active mem­bers of the com­mu­ni­ty. To take away those expe­ri­ences from a child is to go against scout­ing at its core.
    I wel­come any civ­il and ratio­nal dis­cus­sion about this. I want to hear what con­cerns peo­ple have and I want to devel­op a bet­ter under­stand of where oth­er view points are com­ing from. I hope you will give me the same cour­tesy as I will show you when you express your feel­ings and opin­ions.

    1. Matt Mirmak says:

      As an Eagle Scout and a COR for a Boy Scout troop spon­sored by an Open and Affirm­ing con­gre­ga­tion of the Unit­ed Church of Christ, mak­ing Scout­ing more acces­si­ble to more youth and fam­i­lies is a good thing. Moral­ly straight means being of good char­ac­ter. At my church, we have a num­ber of trans­gen­der folks who are some of the most moral­ly straight peo­ple I know. Some of them are even BSA alum­ni.

      If I remem­ber cor­rect­ly in 1988, the pre­vail­ing rheotric was that Scout­ing would not sur­vive because of women Scout lead­ers. This will only make us stronger as a move­ment.

  60. DX says:

    As an Eagle Scout and as an adult leader I can say I ful­ly sup­port this deci­sion. Many of you are act­ing like these chil­dren are some how evil or wrong. You are act­ing like these chil­dren have no morals or set of ethics that will allow them to be good scouts, good cit­i­zens, and peo­ple who care about mak­ing a dif­fer­ence in the world. Are you real­ly will­ing to throw away mul­ti­ple points of the scout oath and scout law to chas­tise these chil­dren because you can’t see past your own per­son­al bias? 

    Where is the kind­ness towards peo­ple who want to be includ­ed in the scouts? Where is the cour­tesy of giv­ing every child a chance to grow into a bet­ter per­son because of scout­ing? Where is the brav­ery of stand­ing up against pet­ty dif­fer­ences between indi­vid­u­als and break­ing down bar­ri­ers that divide us instead of uni­fy us? How are you being help­ful to a scout if you are turn­ing them away for being dif­fer­ent instead of teach­ing the life skills that will make them more suc­cess­ful in the future? Are you being friend­ly in any capac­i­ty to these chil­dren by turn­ing them away for being dif­fer­ent?

    These chil­dren who want to be scouts are phys­i­cal­ly strong every day they wake up and walk into a world where they face the chal­lenges and dis­crim­i­na­tion from the com­mu­ni­ty. They are clear­ly men­tal­ly awake as they are aware of what is going on around them and that they are clear­ly unwant­ed by some aspects of soci­ety. You might ques­tion them being “moral­ly straight”, but since when has gen­der iden­ti­ty or sex­u­al ori­en­ta­tion played a role in how kin­da, gen­er­ous, char­i­ta­ble, or help­ful a scout can be? 

    Some of you are going to say “A scout is rev­er­ent.” First off, when did any one point of the scout law car­ry more weight than the oth­ers? Sec­ond, if you are tru­ly rev­er­ent to God then you will remem­ber the teach­ings of Christs and be accept­ing of a sin­ner no mat­ter what. Jesus said love and for­give every­one. Peri­od.

    Most impor­tant­ly, some of you for­get what scout­ing is real­ly all about. It is about the chil­dren and teach­ing them about the world and help­ing to mold them into bet­ter cit­i­zens and active mem­bers of the com­mu­ni­ty. To take away those expe­ri­ences from a child is to go against scout­ing at its core. 

    I wel­come any civ­il and ratio­nal dis­cus­sion about this. I want to hear what con­cerns peo­ple have and I want to devel­op a bet­ter under­stand of where oth­er view points are com­ing from. I hope you will give me the same cour­tesy as I will show you when you express your feel­ings and opin­ions.

    1. Concerned says:

      Units can and should man­age their own mem­ber­ships, but there are some very real con­cerns that Nation­al has ignored that apply to pro­grams beyond the unit — par­tic­u­lar­ly Scout Camp, NYLT, NLYT Acad­e­my, Kodi­ak, Philmont, etc . Specif­i­cal­ly, Youth Pro­tec­tion. With the changes allow­ing homo­sex­u­al youth, Nation­al still has not addressed how to man­age youth pro­tec­tion oth­er than say­ing sex is not part of the Scout­ing pro­gram. Except that it nev­er was, and we had a need for YPT. With homo­sex­u­al youth there are seri­ous ques­tions about pri­va­cy and pro­tec­tion of the young men that have been ignored. There have been issues at camps that I have had to deal with as a Com­mis­sion­er already.
      Now with this change, it inval­i­dates many of the pro­tec­tions in YPT. We specif­i­cal­ly require sep­a­rate sleep­ing and bath­room facil­i­ties for male and female scouts and lead­ers, We specif­i­cal­ly state this for the pri­va­cy and pro­tec­tion of our youth mem­bers. I’d sure love to see some­one explain this after this change allow­ing peo­ple to deter­mine their own gen­der. I keep hear­ing facil­i­ties are pri­vate, but that’s just no true. Often the show­er stalls are pri­vate, but the area to get dried off and change clothes are not. Under this pol­i­cy, a phys­i­cal­ly female per­son who con­sid­ers her­self a boy would take show­ers in the male show­er units. That expos­es her to male nudi­ty and her female nudi­ty to teenage boys. How can we hon­est­ly jus­ti­fy sep­a­rate restrooms at all at this point? This has fur­ther inval­i­dat­ed many of the YPT pro­tec­tions in place today, and Nation­al has ignored it total­ly. I sus­pect the lack of YPT update is due to the impos­si­bil­i­ty of cre­at­ing a coher­ent plan that pro­tects all mem­bers. The only way for YPT today is to declare things we useed to con­sid­er harm­ful as no longer harm­ful. It appears they are more con­cerned with pol­i­tics than with the safe­ty of our youth.

  61. dbk says:

    I believe Brave is part of Scout­ing. All who con­tin­ue to sup­port the Scout­ing move­ment for the great good it does for our male youth in the face of these con­tem­po­rary chal­lenges are Brave.
    Where do The boys go if the minor­i­ty con­fus­es dis­tracts until Scout­ing has no sup­port.
    Let’s be an exam­ple of the Brave the boys need.

    1. Sarah says:

      Amer­i­can Her­itage Girls and Trail Life USA our Chris­t­ian sThe boys can join Trail Life USA. I don’t agree with BSA’s deci­sion. The boys have anoth­er alter­na­tive.

  62. DJ says:

    What’s next? Nud­ists, sex with ani­mals per­verts, pedophiles? Very bad deci­sion by big wigs at BSA. Will ruin the BSA.

  63. DJ says:

    The days are gone when a YOUNG MAN could be a Boy Scout, work his butt off and proud­ly be award­ed for that work by becom­ing an Eagle Scout. Now, as a result of the BSA climb­ing on the social engi­neer­ing train, the tra­di­tions of being a scout are being thrown out the win­dow in order to pan­der to very small fringe con­stituen­cies like the gay and trans­gen­der crowds. What’s next? Will the BSA allow pedophiles, furies, sex with ani­mals advo­cates, nud­ists, etc etc? My days as a vol­un­teer scout leader are num­bered as a result of this poor deci­sion.

  64. James Paxton says:

    This is the final straw; I’m pulling my two sons out of the scouts.
    First, it was the accep­tance of queers into the orga­ni­za­tion and
    now it is trans­gen­ders. Next will be sex­u­al per­verts of all types.
    What­ev­er hap­pened to the Scout Oath and Scout Laws ?
    This is destroy­ing what was once a good orga­ni­za­tion for kids !!!

  65. Shawn Reser says:

    As per the usu­al, Nation­al makes a deci­sion and doesn’t both­er to give those on the front­line (Scout­mas­ters, CO reps, Com­mit­tee Chairs) ANY fore­warn­ing.

    If you real­ly val­ued your vol­un­teers we would know about this before you release to media. You might even con­sid­er releas­ing guide­lines.

    You real­ly ambushed us. Where is your Loy­al­ty??-.

  66. Ben says:

    Scout­ing as we know it is done. The amount of mon­ey our friends of scout­ing dri­ves get is great­ly dimin­ished com­pared to what it was before the deci­sion to let gay lead­ers in. We hear church lead­ers plead­ing with the peo­ple to donate, not because they want to, but because they have a spir­i­tu­al oblig­a­tion to sus­tain church lead­ers. Very few in our con­gre­ga­tion are inter­est­ed in par­tic­i­pat­ing any­more. Most are only doing it out of oblig­a­tion. I serve in the bish­opric in my LDS con­gre­ga­tion. They are doing it to sup­port church lead­ers but that’s it. How can scout­ing be a move­ment for good in the world if the peo­ple involved have lost all faith in the move­ment?

    1. SRH says:

      Ben, most in the LDS church donate out of obe­di­ence. The Prophet sup­ports the BSA, and most mem­bers sup­port the prophet. When the Proh­pet says no more, then the cash flow will stop and a new ver­sion of the pro­gram will emerge or the Duty to God pro­gram will be revamped to include scout like activ­i­ties.

      1. BLA says:

        SRH,

        I have not been told to donate to FOS. I have been asked to, which is dif­fer­ent. We are told not to blind­ly obey our lead­ers, but to pray and study the mat­ter. I have, and after being involved with BSA for 46+ years, I’m done. I’m done donat­ing and I’m done giv­ing my time. I DON’T agree with this move. When BSA changed to require­ments for lead­ers, but claimed that Char­tered Orga­ni­za­tions could have their own require­ments, I was appre­hen­sive but went along with it. This is the last straw for me as well. I’m an Eagle, but I’m ashamed to be asso­ci­at­ed with BSA now.

      2. Matt Luke says:

        SRH I have to sad­ly agree with you. I sup­port out of oblig­a­tion and I give out of oblig­a­tion. Those who cry that we need to wel­come all miss under­stand that it is NOT the wel­com­ing of all sex­u­al ori­en­ta­tion it is the law­suits and the com­plex­i­ty that occur when mix­ing peo­ple of all sex­u­al ori­en­ta­tion with impres­sion­able 11 to 17-year-olds. there will come a day when the “needs” of the world are no longer in line with the “needs” of the LDS Church.

  67. Doug Lewis says:

    Dahlquests con­clu­sions are frankly dis­ap­point­ing.

    Dahlquest also failed to men­tion of some of the oth­er key rea­sons dri­ving the deci­sion. First, recruit­ing and obtian­ing bet­ter access to pub­lic schools, who veiw the BSA as a dis­crim­i­na­to­ry orga­ni­za­tion. Sec­ond, the mis­guid­ed idea that this deci­sion will lim­it law­suits against the BSA, and third, the hope that cor­po­ra­tions and oth­er not-for-prof­its, who view the BSA as being dis­crim­i­na­to­ry, will give us mon­ey. Any­one dis­agree with the above?

    In effect, our time­less val­ues are being pros­ti­tut­ed yet again. 

    Of course, sin­gle-gen­der edu­ca­tion in this type of pro­gram is ben­e­fi­cial, and yes, by our char­ter, those sin­gle-gen­der pro­grams are for boys. As such, the cor­rect con­clu­sion is that the BSA Cub and Boy Scout pro­grams are not for girls or girls who claim (or who’s par­ents’ claim) to be a boy. These chil­dren need prop­er coun­sel­ing and treat­ment, not pan­der­ing. See, http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

    Addi­tion­aly, Dahlquist fails to address cur­rent BSA youth mem­ber­ship pol­i­cy and the ACLU law­suits that will cer­tain­ly occur as they go after char­ter orga­ni­za­tions that don’t fall in line with their dis­tored and per­vert­ed world view. 

    Recall that the BSA youth pol­i­cy is dif­fer­ent than the BSA’s adult mem­ber­ship pol­i­cy. The lat­ter gives more flex­i­bil­i­ty to char­ter orga­ni­za­tions. Let’s vis­it the cur­rent BSA youth pol­i­cy in view of the BSA’s deci­sion to not look at birth gen­der in deter­min­ing mem­ber­ship eli­gi­bil­i­ty.

    Youth mem­ber­ship in the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca is open to all youth who meet the spe­cif­ic mem­ber­ship require­ments to join the Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Var­si­ty Scout, Sea Scout, and Ven­tur­ing pro­grams. Mem­ber­ship in any pro­gram of the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca requires the youth mem­ber to (a) sub­scribe to and abide by the val­ues expressed in the Scout Oath and Scout Law, (b) sub­scribe to and abide by the pre­cepts of the Dec­la­ra­tion of Reli­gious Prin­ci­ple (duty to God), and © demon­strate behav­ior that exem­pli­fies the high­est lev­el of good con­duct and respect for oth­ers and is con­sis­tent at all times with the val­ues expressed in the Scout Oath and Scout Law. No youth may be denied mem­ber­ship in the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca on the basis of sex­u­al ori­en­ta­tion or pref­er­ence alone.”

    For Boy Scouts … Meet age require­ments: Be a boy who is 11 years old, or one who has com­plet­ed the fifth grade or earned the Arrow of Light Award and is at least 10 years old, but is not yet 18 years old. Com­plete a Boy Scoutap­pli­ca­tion and health his­to­ry signed by your par­ent or guardian. Find a Scout troop­n­ear your home.”

    Under cur­rent BSA meme­br­ship pol­i­cy, local units and char­ter organzi­a­tions can and will be sued for deny­ing mem­ber­ship in the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca on the basis of reject­ing the gen­der deter­mi­antion of a par­ent on a mem­ber­ship appli­ca­tion.

    Houston.…we have a MAJOR prob­lem!!!!!!!

    PS. It wil not end here. Those that oppose our time­less val­ues will take con­cepts like Dahlquist raised about keep­ing trans­gen­ders and homo­sex­u­als safe and they will come back with stud­ies and exam­ples of abuse or dis­crim­i­na­tion and they will demand anti-bul­ly­ing train­ing int the BSA addresing these “goups of Scouters” and new educ­tion pro­grams with­in the BSA under the ban­ner of tol­er­ance and anti-bul­ly­ing. Our Socuts will be taught as part of this “re-edu­ca­tion” that being homo­sex­u­al or trans­gen­der is ok and that we need to love, sup­port, enable, pro­tect and encour­age all types of behav­ior, whether or not such con­flicts with our Oath and Law. We can find exam­ples of this in oth­er organ­za­tions like our pub­lic schools and the new US mil­i­tary. Wake up Scouters!!! Very dis­ap­point­ing Mr. Dahlquist! Where are men of courage like Lord Baden Pow­ell???? Oh, yea … they are being destroyed in their youth.

    1. David McGee says:

      Doug Lewis’ com­ments are 100% on point! Once again, the pro­fes­sion­als have sold out both the pro­gram and the Scouts.

  68. Jason Adcock says:

    Sad day for the BSA. Shame on the scout­ing exec­u­tives. I thought it was BOY Scouts. I’m sick and tired of this gen­der con­fu­sion dis­ease eat­ing its way across our coun­try.

  69. Jason Adcock says:

    Sad day for the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca. The BSA final­ly gave in to more of the poi­son that is ruin­ing our coun­try. Satan has been work­ing very hard on this issue. BOY Scouts of Amer­i­ca doesn’t mean con­fused chil­dren of Amer­i­ca. It is a shame that these par­ents allow their chil­dren to do any­thing they want and we all have to change because of a few mis­guid­ed youth. It ruins what was once a whole­some, beloved, and admirable orga­ni­za­tion. The Scout Oath clear­ly states .… “To keep myself phys­i­cal­ly strong, men­tal­ly awake, and moral­ly straight.” This deci­sion is NOT moral­ly straight.
    As an Eagle Scout for more than 20 years and as an active Assis­tant Scout Mas­ter I am ashamed of the BSA Lead­ers and Exec­u­tives for get­ting sold out.

  70. Steve Cathey says:

    As a cur­rent scout mas­ter, I can tell you all one thing. My troop is a sin­gle gen­der unit. We camp where there are no bath­room or any facil­i­ties. I don’t allow mom’s,sisters or any female to camp with us. If the national,council,district doesn’t like it. Too bad! They are mak­ing Boyscouts dirty. Next they will give out par­tic­i­pat­ing eagle badges. Just to stop a law suit. Cow­ards!

    1. Anita says:

      … not just Eagle badges, but also access to become Arrow­men in the OA as youth and then go to Fel­low­ship Week­ends and com­plete OA-NLS at Philmont. 🙂 This opens up so many doors to break­ing tra­di­tions, whether we agree or not. 

      1. Steve Cathey says:

        .…I agree. Scout­ing is about fel­low­ship and broth­er­hood. My son is almost an eagle and a broth­er­hood in OA. He loves scouts and this deci­sion is weigh­ing heavy on his heart. I am leave it up to him to fol­low his heart on this. For me my days are num­bered.

  71. Chris Brown says:

    First off I am not hap­py about and do not agree with the trans­gen­der deci­sion. But maybe it is time that we just turn the Boy Scouts of Amer­i­ca into a co-ed pro­gram from Cubs to Crews. As is men­tioned in the arti­cle STEM is a big issue and that is a pro­gram that can be pre­formed by both boys and girls.

    1. Bill O'Steen says:

      Co-ed, all male, or all female units through­out based on the char­tered orga­ni­za­tions desires/needs, just like Ven­tur­ing.

  72. Brandon says:

    It is unfair to open Cub Scout­ing to some girls but not all girls. It would seem to rea­son that units should just start reg­is­ter­ing girls and let the BSA find a good rea­son to stop them.

    1. D F says:

      What hap­pens if you check “female” on a Cub Scout appli­ca­tion? Do they reject it at dis­trict, coun­cil, and/or nation­al? My three girls “self-iden­ti­fy” as Cub Scouts and it hurts me every day that I can’t serve them togeth­er with my boys.

  73. Frank Butcher says:

    I was an Eaglr Scout a hold­er of the God and Coun­try award, a dis­trict com­mis­sion­er ‚and a Dis­trict Chap­lain. When the BSA allowed gay scouts and gay lead­ers in I could not,as a Chris­t­ian swear the Scout Oath that says I will do my duty to God and at the end obey the Scout Laws which say at the end a Scout is Rever­ant. These actions were done by the lib­er­als to destroy Scout­ing and the inner fab­ric of the coun­try I fought for in the U.S. Navy Shame on the Nation­al lead­ers for cav­ing in to a minor­i­ty so they can destroy a once GREAT orga­ni­za­tion

  74. Jessica says:

    I think it’s fine that we have open the door to trans­gen­der chil­dren but if are going to open that door I think we should open all doors we should allow girls to par­tic­i­pate because you’ve already Open the door will already will hav­ing to mon­i­tor your bath­room sit­u­a­tion your camp­ing sit­u­a­tion and oth­er things like that which we already do in ven­tur­ing crew but we don’t do so much in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts so if you’re going to have to do those things any­way want to open the doors for Girl.
    Let all kids be able to learn the scout­ing way learn the Scout oath and the law how to be self-suf­fi­cient and self grow­ing learn how to be an upstand­ing cit­i­zen in this world of tomor­row

    1. Steve Cathey says:

      This is why I have to ask. Isn’t there a Girl Scout pro­gram. Why can’t the girls just go with there pro­gram and why do they have to met­tle in ours. Just like the oth­er male clubs. Some­times guys just need a time and place to be guys.

      1. JH says:

        Girl Scouts is not an equiv­a­lent alter­na­tive to the BSA pro­grams. The Girl Scouts sold out a gen­er­a­tion ago, and while the pro­grams with­in GSA have some mer­it, they are not of the same cal­iber as Boy Scout pro­grams.

  75. Jessica says:

    If you are going the route of let­ting trans­gen­der kids into the Boy Scouts which is fine then you should go ahead and let girls into the Boy Scouts as it is in oth­er coun­tries and just open up the door for girls to enjoy the pro­gram as much because that’s basi­cal­ly what you’ve done you have now made it to where bath­room sit­u­a­tions will def­i­nite­ly have to be mon­i­tored sep­a­rate ‚show­er sep­a­ra­tions ‚tent sep­a­ra­tions and a lot more restric­tions on that area which would be the same kind of thing you would do if you had girls camp­ing just like we do in a ven­tur­ing crew so why not just go ahead and open the doors to allow girls to also par­tic­i­pate.
    I’m open for i’ll chil­dren to par­tic­i­pate in the Boy Scout Way and train­ing them to be self-suf­fi­cient and self going and learn the law and the oath but if we’re going to open one door we should just open them all.

  76. Rob Smith says:

    Only the major char­ter­ing orga­ni­za­tions were con­tact­ed — the rest were not. This was a shock to much of the Scout­ing com­mu­ni­ty. The way the nation­al office of the BSA han­dled this announce­ment was extreme­ly poor to the point that many who are employed by the BSA had no idea this was com­ing. It is obvi­ous that the BSA real­ly doesn’t val­ue their Char­ter­ing Orga­ni­za­tions unless they are the large ones like the LDS church. I’m a char­ter rep for two units and there was NO com­mu­ni­ca­tion.

      1. Michael Acker says:

        Actu­al­ly Rob is cor­rect. We lost 2–4 troops in our dis­trict after the last social exper­i­ment deci­sion and this will not help either. Wake up, the num­bers don’t lie. When I start­ed as a leader BSA mem­ber­ship was 3.4 mil­lion. Dur­ing the last social exper­i­ment the num­bers went from 2.3 mil­lion (2014) to 2.2 (2015).
        You say “Scout­ing will be still here”? To the con­trary, the num­bers don’t lie.

      2. Dr. Tyrone says:

        Yes, Scout­ing will still be here tomor­row. But the LDS Church will not be a char­tered mem­ber for much longer. Good luck with Friends of Scout­ing next fall. Let the mad­ness con­tin­ue.

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